Dallas Penn is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a pioneer in what was once known as the "black blogosphere", birthed the phrase "Internets", and has been a contributing writer to such hip-hop magazines as Mass Appeal, XXL Magazine, and The Source. He is also a founding member of the film-making collective, iNternets Celebrities.
During this relaxed and fun episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Dallas and Chauncey discuss the current state of hip-hop, digital versus analog culture, sneaker collecting and the pleasures of various subcultures, as well as the Bill Cosby sex scandal. Given that they are fellow online travelers Chauncey and Dallas also reflect on life, aging, their health, and the (obvious) mysteries of Donald Trump.
Writer and podcaster Alasdair Stuart also sits down at the virtual bar and salon to share his thoughts about the new movie It. Stuart and Chauncey critique the film, discuss questions of adapting Stephen King's source material for the screen, and the film's various problems with race and gender.
On this week's show, Chauncey DeVega reflects on the perils of Trump, North Korea and the "madman" theory of international relations. In this week's episode, Chauncey understands why folks may be upset at Trump's racist comments in Alabama towards black athletes who are protesting police brutality and social injustice--but cautions that the real issue is how Trump is a de facto financial con artist who is using the presidency to enrich his own bank account.
This week's special birthday edition of The Chauncey DeVega Show features two guests.
Robert Tepper is the writer and singer of the classic 1980s song "No Easy Way Out" from the movie Rocky IV. He stops by the virtual bar and salon to share some stories about his career as a musician, life on the road, Sylvester Stallone, and how "No Easy Way Out" came into being. Tepper also gives some advice to up-and-coming musicians about their careers and enjoying the moment.
Sports journalist and writer Gianmarc Manzione is the second guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is Editor of Bowlers Journal and author of the book Pin Action: Small-time Gangsters, High-Stakes Gambling, and the Teenage Hustler who Became a Bowling Champion.
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Gianmarc and Chauncey discuss their shared love of the sport of bowling, common working class culture. Gianmarc then tells some great stories about the gangsters, crooks, hustlers and other colorful characters who dominated the big money "action bowling" (gambling) scene in the United States during its heyday from the 1950s to 1970s.
On this week's show, Chauncey DeVega reflects on his birthday and the health challenges that come with advancing decrepitude. In keeping with the spirit of sharing things that he loves on his birthday, Chauncey offers up some life wisdom learned from con artists and grifters and then reads from a wonderful story about the sloth--his spiritual avatar and one of his favorite animals.
This week's special episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show examines the white supremacist terrorism in Charlottesville, Virginia which took place last week.
The first guest is Adele Stan. She is a journalist for The American Prospect. Her work has also appeared at Alternet. Adele was present in Charlottesville during the "Unite the Right" hate festival and shares her first person account of what transpired there.
The second guest is "James" from the leading antifascist, anarchist, and human rights information clearing house and website "It's Going Down". James has been tracking the white supremacist and other fascist organizations who ran amok in Charlottesville. He explains their connections, funding, if the "Unite the Right" hate festival was a success, and the role of physical active resistance in standing against fascists and their allies.
The third guest is Amanda Marcotte. She is a politics and culture writer for the online magazine Salon. Amanda shares her thoughts about resistance and non-violence in the aftermath of Charlottesville, as well as Trump's statements about white supremacist violence.
The fourth guest is Tim Wise. He is one of the United States' leading anti-racism activists and scholars. Tim reflects on the role of white privilege in the white supremacist political violence and mayhem in Charlottesville, toxic white masculinity and the white supremacist movement, how last weekend's events were very predictable, and white folks' denial about the dangers posed by the so-called "alt-right".
The fifth guest is Dr. David Reiss. He is a psychiatrist who has written extensively about Donald Trump. Dr. Reiss also a chapter in the forthcoming book The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President which attempts to assess Trump's mental health. Dr. Reiss offers his suggestions about maintaining one's sense of self and wellness in the aftermath of the terrorism in Charlottesville. He also provides some insights about the mental health of the white supremacists and other fascists who attended the "Unite the Right" hate festival and carnival of thugs.
During this week's episode, Chauncey implores white Americans to clean up their own house and to finally confront the deep sickness of racism and white supremacy that ran amok in Charlottesville--as well as the broader problem that is Trump's cabal and political cult.
Randi Weingarten is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. She is the president of the American Federation of Teachers and one of the country's leading advocates (and defenders) for public education and a true "we the people" democracy.
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Randi and Chauncey discuss the war on America's public schools and teachers being waged by Donald Trump and Betsy DeVos, how "privatization" and other neoliberal "reforms are actually hurting American society, race and class and the Commons, gangster capitalism, and the ways that the battle for health care and public education intersect.
This week's podcast also features a special segment honoring the life and work of the American auteur and master filmmaker George Romero who passed away several weeks ago.
Author Joe Lansdale stops by to offer his thoughts on Romero's legacy and the politics and impact of Night of the Living Dead. "Champion" Joe also tells a great story--as only he can--about seeing Night of the Living Dead at a drive-in theater during its initial release in 1968.
Writer and podcaster Alasdair Stuart also sits down at the virtual bar and salon to offer his insights about George Romero's impact on the United Kingdom in addition to sharing some thoughts on the present state of zombie horror cinema.
In this week's episode, Chauncey DeVega reflects on how in Donald Trump's America history may not be repeating itself but it sure does rhyme. To that end, Chauncey shares a newspaper column from The New York Times that was written in 1922. The author's conclusion? Hitler did not really hate the Jews and was just pandering to get support from an ignorant public.
Tom Nichols is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a professor of national security affairs at United States Naval War College and also teaches at the Harvard Extension School. His new book is “The Death of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why It Matters.”
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Tom and Chauncey discuss the ways that anti-intellectualism, greed, and societal affluence led to the victory of Donald Trump, the American public's increasing disdain towards experts and the very idea of expert knowledge, the role of the internet and social media in the country's broken public discourse and politics, and how the importance of reading and literacy has become increasingly suspect in the United States.
Historian John Broich also stops by the podcast to discuss his great essay over at Slate about the new movie Dunkirk and what it gets right (and wrong) about that epic World War 2 battle.
In this week's episode, Chauncey DeVega is both horrified and very entertained by Donald Trump's very special week that involved the child-king emperor telling boy scouts about his very rich friend's orgy on a yacht, encouraging America's out of control police to brutalize black and brown people (i.e. "suspects"), and sharing torture porn stories about how drug gangs are ravaging good and innocent (white) American women.
Chauncey also gives thanks and honors the kind folks who donated to the June fundraiser to support the podcast and his other work.
Joseph Baker is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a professor of sociology at Eastern Tennessee State University and the author of the book Paranormal America.
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Joseph and Chauncey discuss alternative knowledge systems and conspiracy theories, the rise of Donald Trump, Infowars, and fantastical thinking, as well as how those people who believe in UFOs, Bigfoot, and ghosts construct reality. Joseph also shares some great stories about searching for Bigfoot and spending time with ghost hunters.
In this week's episode, Chauncey DeVega calls out the foolishness that is America's obsession with Donald Trump's Twitter feed, tells a story about how he may have told too much truth during a recent radio appearance in San Francisco, and asks listeners if he should soften his approach to talking about the horrible reality that is America under Donald Trump. In the spirit of this week's episode, Chauncey also shares some stories from The Weekly World News.
Jason Aaron is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. Jason is the writer of such great comic book and graphic novel series as Star Wars, Thor, Southern Bastards, and The Goddamned. Jason has also written The Punisher as well as Scalped.
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Jason and Chauncey discuss their love of graphic novels and comic books, rejection of religion, reflect on personal codes of honor and masculinity, and of course the greatness that is Star Wars. Jason and Chauncey also talk about "Southern culture" and identity, the Confederate flag, "diversity" and "representation" in comic books and graphic novels, as well as creating authentic stories and real characters.
In this week's episode, Chauncey DeVega explains how the Republican Party's so-called "healthcare" bill in the Senate is actually a way to kill those Americans they view as "useless eaters", corporate news media malpractice, and how the Georgia special election reveals the likelihood that Trump will win another term as president in 2020.
Chauncey also reviews the amazing and powerful new film Okja which he saw at an early screening last week.
At the end of this week's episode of the podcast, Chauncey explains how the Republican Party is comprised of political sociopaths and cannibals like the notorious Albert Fish who want to eat poor and working class people in order to given rich people more money.
Writer, movie producer, and director Barry Blaustein is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. Barry is the writer of such great comedies as Coming to America, The Nutty Professor, and Boomerang. Barry also helped to write Eddie Murphy's legendary skits on the TV show Saturday Night Live. And of course, Barry Blaustein narrated and produced the amazing documentary about professional wrestling Beyond the Mat.
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Barry and Chauncey discuss their shared love of professional wrestling, how Donald Trump is a performance artist, how he made Beyond the Mat, what it was like trying to tell the true life behind the scenes stories of the (then) World Wrestling Federation, talk about Jake "the Snake" Roberts, and some of the "good" and "bad" things about professional wrestling today. Barry also shares some stories about working with and writing for Eddie Murphy as well as the challenge of being creative for a living.
Jared Yates Sexton is also a guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a journalist and writer who has extensively covered Donald Trump's campaign and now presidency. This is the third time that Jared has stopped by the virtual bar and salon and he has some great stories to tell about how Trump and the Right-wing media are causing violence and other problems within families and communities, offers some thoughts about Trump and the Russia scandal, and ponders how Trump's regime may end. Jared also loves professional wrestling, so of course, he and Chauncey have to talk about the WWE and Brock Lesnar's upcoming battle with Samoa Joe.
In this week's episode Chauncey DeVega shares some insights about a crazy week that included an attack on a Republican congressional baseball game in Alexandria, violence by conservatives against Democrats, liberals, and their other enemies, and how a racist thug cop got away with the de facto lynching of Philando Castile.
At the end of this week's episode of the podcast, Chauncey shares a story about gun violence and other foolishness at Chuck E. Cheese restaurants in Chicago.
Anti-racism activist, author, and scholar Tim Wise is the guest on this week's edition of The Chauncey DeVega Show. Tim Wise is the author of numerous books including his most recent Under the Affluence: Shaming the Poor, Praising the Rich and Sacrificing the Future of America. He is also the subject of a great new documentary called White Like Me.
This is the third time that Tim has stopped by the virtual bar and salon--and our first conversation since the election of Donald Trump.
During this episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Tim and Chauncey discuss what Trump's election reveals about white identity politics, the resurgence of "white nationalism" as something "respectable" under Trump's regime, questions of empathy (or not) for Trump's "white working class" voters, and the white backlash to Barack Obama.
Maya Rupert is also a guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. She is the author of a great new essay at The Atlantic about questions of race, gender, and representation in the new Wonder Woman movie. Maya and Chauncey offer their thoughts about Wonder Woman, share some concerns and hopes about the broader DC film universe, and do a little script doctoring along the way.
In this week's episode Chauncey DeVega shares some insights about James Comey's testimony before the Senate and wonders if this is all just an episode of the Scooby-Doo cartoon. Chauncey also shares some new research that further demonstrates the power of racism and nativism and bigotry among Trump's "white working class" voters. At the end of this week's episode of the podcast, Chauncey also asks the listeners for advice about reconnecting with some relatives he hasn't spoken to in almost two decades.
Rachel Dolezal is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. She is an anti-racism and human rights activist who is most well-known for the controversy surrounding her decision to live as a "black" woman even though she was born "white". Rachel is also the author of the new book In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World.
During this week's show, Rachel and Chauncey discuss the concept of "transracial" identity, Rachel's childhood, how she discovered her affinity for black people, what it is like to be a target for public scorn, and her thinking about how race is just a social construct and that individuals should be free to perform whatever racial or other social identity they feel most comfortable with.
Counter-intelligence expert Naveed Jamali who is the author of the new book How to Catch a Russian Spy is also a guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He shares his thoughts about the Donald Trump and how the Russian government likely recruited National Security Advisor Michael Flynn to work as their covert agent and what this means for the firing of FBI Director James Comey.
In this week's episode, Chauncey offers an extended commentary about how Donald Trump is orchestrating a coup against American democracy, how his firing of Comey is a Constitutional crisis of the first order, and ponders if the American people are lions or sheep.
Scott Snyder is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is an award-winning writer of graphic novels such as All-Star Batman, Detective Comics, American Vampire, The Wake and Swamp Thing.
During this week's show, Scott and Chauncey discuss what it is like to write an iconic character such as Batman, questions of "diversity" and "inclusion" in comic books, the craft of storytelling and world-building, and how politics and the rise of Donald Trump should (or should not) be reflected in comic books and popular culture more generally.
Philosopher Henry Giroux is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is one of the leading authorities on critical pedagogy and what he describes as the "culture of cruelty" in the United States. Dr. Giroux has written many books and articles including America at War with Itself and the forthcoming The Public in Peril: Trump and the Menace of American Authoritarianism.
During this week's show, Henry and Chauncey discuss neo-fascism in America and the election of Donald Trump, the culture of cruelty and its assault on the commons, neoliberalism, the surveillance society, and how loneliness and bigotry influenced Trump's voters. Henry and Chauncey also talk about their working class roots and how that has impacted their politics and writing. Of course, given his love of cinema, Dr. Giroux makes some suggestions about recent films that both inform and reflect the current political moment.
In this week's podcast, Chauncey shares some thoughts about Bill O'Reilly's departure from Fox News and reads the court transcript of his infamous "falafel" sexual harassment lawsuit. And Chauncey continues sharing a newspaper story from the Chicago Tribune about the "hilbilly" panic from the 1950s--this time with letters to the editor.
Psychologist Philip Zimbardo is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is one of the world's leading authorities on social dominance behavior and group dynamics. Most famous for the 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment, Dr. Zimbardo has written dozens of books and articles including the most recent "The Time Paradox: The New Psychology of Time That Will Change Your Life" and "The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil". His new work examines heroism and the ability of individuals to contribute to the Common Good by being socially conscious and present in their day-to-day decision-making.
During this week's show, Dr. Zimbardo and Chauncey discuss the rise of Donald Trump and his impact on America's culture, bullying behavior by children, what does it mean to be a "hero", how to do small things to improve the world, and his reflections on the Stanford Prison Experiment.
On this week's show, Chauncey also shares some thoughts about last weekend's Wrestlemania event, offers some comments about his widely read essay about Bernie Sanders and liberal racism, reads some hate mail and also one of the greatest comments about the vileness of Donald Trump and his inner cabal ever to be found on the Internet.
Peter Bebergal is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is the author of the new book Season of the Witch: How the Occult Saved Rock and Roll.
During this week's show, Peter and Chauncey discuss the appeal of magic and the occult for musicians and artists, the moral panics about Satanism and heavy metal music during the 1980s in America, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, as well as how African trickster figures and other cultural practices influenced black music in America and across the Black Atlantic. Peter and Chauncey also talk about digital versus analog culture and the history of pen and paper as well as tabletop role-playing games.
Friend of the podcast Jared Yates Sexton, contributing writer for publications such as The New Republic as well as The New York Times, also stops by to make his predictions (and share some concerns) about this weekend's WWE Wrestlemania 33 event.
Jane Elliott is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. Elliot is an anti-racism educator and activist who is most well-known for her Blue-Eyed/Brown-Eyed teaching exercise.
During this week's show, Jane and Chauncey discuss Donald Trump and his racist movement, the origins of the Blue-Eyed/Brown-Eyed teaching exercise and the problem with language such as "white privilege". Jane Elliott also shares a powerful story about overcoming fear and confronting death threats.
On this week's show, Chauncey also shares his thoughts about how the Republican Party, Donald Trump and Paul Ryan want to kill the "useless eaters", the flood of developments that further implicate the Trump administration as being pawns of Vladimir Putin, and reads a personal story about the Meals on Wheels food program. During this week's podcast, Chauncey also warns the public about a child con artist who looks like Gary Coleman that scammed him out of money.
Colin Dickey is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is the author of several books including Ghostland: An American History in Haunted Places. During this week's show Chauncey and Colin channel the Art Bell show as they discuss hauntings and collective memory, why skepticism is a requirement, the Winchester ghost sightings, the TV show American Horror Story, Native American burial grounds, as well as the color line, slavery and the spectral imagination. Colin and Chauncey also debate the merits of the recent Ghostbusters reboot and the very problematic gender politics of the original film.
During this week's podcast, Chauncey talks about his trip home to see Mama DeVega for her birthday, what it was like to shoot an AR-15 at the gun range, and offers an assessment of the recent revelations about the traitors in the Trump White House. Chauncey also does a little research and shares an audio recording of a former black American slave telling the WPA project the ghost stories he learned as a child.
John Kinder is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is the author of Paying with Their Bodies: American War and the Problem of the Disabled Veteran.
During this week's show, Chauncey and John discuss "human waste" and the other language that was used to describe disabled veterans, America's worship of technology and human improvement, the lies and other propaganda that were used to glorify the harm (and supposed recovery) of American soldiers during war, and why World War One matters in the present.
Dr. Kinder and Chauncey also talk about historical memory and the color line in cities such as Tulsa and Birmingham while reminiscing about their childhoods and a time before subcultures such as skateboarding and DJ culture had fully "sold out".
Agustin Fuentes is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a professor of anthropology at the University of Notre Dame and is one of the leading experts on human social evolution, primate behavior, human and non-human interaction, and communication. Dr. Fuentes is also the author of many books including the forthcoming, "The Creative Spark: How Imagination Made Humans Exceptional". During this week's show, Chauncey and Agustin talk about the biological fiction that is race, how humans are not "naked apes", DNA testing and ancestry, debunk the "killer ape" hypothesis, and try to make sense of Donald Trump's voters. Professor Fuentes also breaks Chauncey's heart by explaining that "humanzees" such as Oliver the Chimp do not actually exist.
During this week's podcast, Chauncey shares some of the recent articles about Donald Trump's junta and subsequent coup and reads some angry email from a Trumpthuglican. Chauncey also makes his obligatory Superbowl 51 prediction.
William Smith is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a professor at The University of Utah and author of numerous articles on race, identity, psychology, and higher education. He is most well-known for his contributions to the study of what is known as "racial battle fatigue". During this week's show, Chauncey and Professor Smith talk about racism and trauma, "racial battle fatigue" and learning, how colleges and universities are failing students of color, police brutality, and if videos of police violence against black people are a type of contemporary lynching photography.
During this week's podcast, Chauncey shares his thoughts on the new movies "Split" and "The Founder". Chauncey also reinforces the importance of the little things in life and then does some dream interpretation that involves toilets, religion, and Donald Trump. A warning: the latter does not go well.
Kelly Baker is the guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. She is the author of Gospel According to the Klan: The KKK’s Appeal to Protestant America, 1915-1930, as well as The Zombies Are Coming!: The Realities of the Zombie Apocalypse in American Culture.
In this week's episode of the podcast, Kelly and Chauncey talk about the "good white people" problem and racism, white identity politics and Donald Trump, the history of the Ku Klux Klan, as well as the various genres of hate mail and white toxic masculinity. Chauncey and Kelly also talk about their shared love of zombies and the not so hidden gender and racial politics of The Walking Dead TV series.
During this week's podcast, Chauncey talks about going to see Barack Obama's farewell address as a member of the press, shares a fun story about the naming practices of the ghetto underclass, and gives his thoughts on what is really going on with Donald Trump's golden shower scandal. At the end of this week's episode, Chauncey also shares some thoughts on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s radicalism and the inauguration of the American fascist Donald Trump.
The guest, for this, the first official podcast episode of 2017, is Lester Spence. He is the author of several great books including Stare in the Darkness: The Limits of Hip-hop and Black Politics and is a frequent contributor to news outlets such as MSNBC, the BBC, and National Public Radio. Dr. Spence is also an Associate Professor of Political Science at Johns Hopkins University.
In this far ranging and broad conversation, Lester and Chauncey talk about race and popular culture, neoliberalism and black politics, why Beyonce is not "politically resistant", social media "activism", police thuggery, and the role of "black public intellectuals" at the end of the Age of Obama and through to the nightmare that will be the Age of Trump. Lester and Chauncey also talk about analog vs. digital culture and the art of being a master of the turntables.
During this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, Chauncey answers some questions sent in by friends and listeners of the show and also reads some hate mail.
Happy New Year!
On this week's impromptu podcast episode, Chauncey Devega offers up some personal reflections on the year past and hopes for the upcoming 2017. What was Chauncey grateful for last year? What are his hopes for the future? On this week's podcast, Chauncey also calls up Mama DeVega on the telephone and she offers up her thoughts on Donald Trump, what we need to do going forward, what she is grateful for this past year, and the best attitude to have in life. Hint: Stay positive and do something!
This week's special fundraising podcast guest is Ben Winters, author of the New York Times bestselling book "Underground Airlines". In this expansive conversation, Ben and Chauncey talk about the "what if?" scenario of how white on black chattel slavery continues into present-day America that drives "Underground Airlines", writing race and the color line as a white author, as well as the rise of Donald Trump and what the popularity of his bigotry says about America. Ben and Chauncey also discuss their mutual love of comedy, Ben's time trying to be a stand up comedian, and of course, the nuts and bolts about the craft of writing.
During this week's Christmas and holiday season episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show, per the tradition of Festivus, Chauncey airs his grievances, talks about the Christmas Card industrial complex, and shares a clip of what happens when Jean Shepherd of "A Christmas Story" fame meets the Ku Klux Klan.
This week's special fundraising podcast guest is the civil rights icon, educator, and 1968 Olympic gold medalist Dr. Tommie Smith. He is most widely known for his iconic "Black Power" salute with John Carlos. Dr. Smith has spent the decades after that iconic moment traveling the country and world sharing his life wisdom about human rights, dignity, and the power of education.
Chauncey and Dr. Smith discuss Colin Kaepernick and how he has inspired political awareness and activism among his fellow athletes, what moved Dr. Smith to sacrifice so much by speaking truth to power during the 1968 Olympics, why some people choose action and others inaction, and a lack of national moral leadership in today's America.
During this week's podcast, Chauncey also shares his initial thoughts on Rogue One: A Star Wars Story after seeing it Thursday night, reflects on "fake news" and his recent essay on Trump and America as a banana republic, and offers some comments on Barack Obama's final press conference of 2016.
This week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show features two great guests.
Documentary filmmaker Steven Okazaki stops by to discuss his new documentary 'Mifune: The Last Samurai' and to also share what his documentary about drug addiction in America's rural and suburban communities can tell us about the election of the American Il Duce Donald Trump.
Zach Schonfeld is the second guest on this week's episode of The Chauncey DeVega Show. He is a culture and politics writer for Newsweek Magazine.
In this week's episode of the podcast, Zach and Chauncey talk about the genius of Andy Kaufman, Donald Trump and political performance art, how best to fake one's own death, and "political correctness", and the business that is writing about culture and politics for a living.
During this week's podcast Chauncey explains why he was "thankful" on Thanksgiving for Donald Trump's victory, gives a soft start to the December fundraiser for the podcast and his other online work, and previews his conversation with Van Jones and the other great guests he has spoken to for the show this month. Chauncey also tells the truth about the stupid mouth breathers in places like Kentucky who hate Obama so much that they voted for Donald Trump and other Republicans who will take away their health insurance.